Houseboys deal with a lot of bullshit too. What is it with older, indecisive and emotionally unstable "employers" ?

[Collegeboy4work]

In my time on this website, I've talked to at least 10 "employers" who seemed like they were wholeheartedly serious in hiring me. My profile is extremely clear that I'm looking for a paid houseboy poisition (known commonly as a JOB). However, when the magical moment came to sit down and work out the uncomfortable details (salary payments, how much, job requirements, sex requirements, relocation, plane trips, plane tickets, etc.) that is far too difficult to accomplish.

Personal examples:

1.) Guy from San Francisco, I believe, messaged me and initiated contact. He was surprised at my marturity for the tender age of 21, but didn't seem to enthralled by the opportunity to hire another houseboy. A previous houseboy experience to which he tended, went horribly wrong and he wasn't ready to acquire another brat. He literally messaged me telling me he wanted a houseboy, only to decide a day later that he actually didn't. I'm not bitter at him for changing his mind, everyone is entiteld to their opinion. But I AM bitter at him for wasting my time writing email correspondence when I could have been out and about looking for a job.

2.) Guy from my state, was looking for a houseboy position that would eventually turn into a relationship. I made no guarantees, but I told him I would gladly swoop up the houseboy position and keep my heart receptive to love, just on the off chance that a relationship could blossom from the work I do there. He changed his mind the next day and decided he's only looking for a serious relationship. He's not willing to go through the development stage of a relationship. He just wants me to fall in love the second I step off the plane. No thanks, I'll just stick to no strings attached houseboy positions.

3.) Another man also from my state. Successful, intelligent and had a good attitude for the most part. We swap several emails back and forth and I tell him about me, and he tells me about him. I tell him specifics of what I consider an acceptable Salary is for my houseboy services. He felt that I chose an amount that was too high, not based on the fact that it was a high number (I believe the number I recommended was 250-500 weekly, just as an fyi.) The issue #3 had with my Salary, was not the amount. Rather, the issue he had is that apparently he hired a previous houseboy and he did not satisfy #3's expectations. If you want to make friends, let alone a houseboy or relationship, it's probably not the most rational idea to go into said friendship with pre-conceived notions like "YOU WILL DISAPPOINT ME AS THEY JUST LIKE THAT OTHER GUY."

Several days later, we lose contact, so I email him once more: "Lost interest?" He emails me with some bullshit about how I can't decide what I want because of a few "Maybes" and "Depends" in my profile. Then he proceeds to tell me:

Sorry, I had to run to CA. for two days. But no I'm not interested anymore.
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​‹It's not easy to get a good read on you, and I really want someone more serious than you appear to be.
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When I ask you what you are looking for, you said everything your'e looking for is in your profile. So look at your profile.

Live in / out = Depends

Relocate = Maybe
Temp/ perm = Depends

Boyfriend = Big cocked black guy (This was a joke in my profile, just as an fyi)

My response:

I'm not sure why you think it's difficult to get a good read on me. Perhaps you weren't really thinking about what I was saying?

-Live-in = depends on the situation of the guy looking for a houseboy. Not everyone is looking for a live-in houseboy and I don't want to exclude someone if they don't. I don't need to live AT their home to be at their home regularly. Surely you agree?

-Relocate = obviously depends on whether or not someone is willing to help me relocate. I could probably relocate to New Jersey or Upstate NY or Connecticut, but relocating to California or Antarctica is a whole different ball game. There's planning that needs to be done.

-Temp/perm = Am I expected to be a houseboy until the day I die? Once again, this depends on the employer. Does he WANT an extended houseboy arrangement or is he looking for something for a week, a month, etc.

-Boyfriend = You took this part literally, when you weren't supposed to. I don't discriminate based on race.

Everything you could possibly NEED to know about me and whether you want to hire me is in my profile. You asked questions which lacked clarity and/or were answered in my profile in detail. I was literally unable to provide any more detail than I've already given.

I can't believe an employer honestly believes that every houseboy is willing to be a slave right off the bat. I can't just completely ditch my life here overnight. It requires a small, but significant amount of pre-planning on the part of both the employer and houseboy. My suitor did not want a houseboy - he wanted a boy with no self-esteem or self-respect that he can use how he wants.

4.) This one was interested in a houseboy position ASAP (as in within the next few days. Not a month down the line or anything like that.) I actually admired his willingness to start something serious without any bullshit and in a timely manner. This Employer had the "Salary" Benefit listed on his profile. So I read through and I think "this guy seems like exactly what I want." Then he starts telling me about the position and how I would be a cumdump for his and his partner (he did not mention he has a partner in his profile either, which I found a bit misleading, but I was willing to forgive). His "payment plan" was this:

You will purchase your own ticket here but we will purchase your ticket back if it dont work out or you are unable to be the right kind of houseboy. You will be forced to do whatever work I have you do. This will range from cleaning around the house to more labor jobs like digging in the backyard and helping my partner out with his needs. U will be available for sex 24/7 and you will service us whenever we request it NO COMPLAINING. If you're not willing to be used by 2 handsome guys & perform your sexual duties this prolly won't work out and you should move along.

5.) Was in the fledgling stages of meeting a guy from a few states over in Florida. He was willing to fly me out there, we talked on the phone a few times, laughed and joked around a lot. Got along well. He asked general quesitons, I answered. He answered my questions. He had a beautiful home and he was willing to share it with me. Then the opportunity to visit his state arose. I thought this was great, Guy #5 wouldn't even have to buy me a plane ticket, I could simply visit him while I was in his state. Unfortunately for me, it was Guy #6 that was going to be flying me down to Florida. During that time, I would meet Guy #5 and we could determine if he wanted to hire me. My consideration to NOT have Guy #5 spend an extra $XXX amount of dollars on the plane ticket backfired. He was offended by the fact that I wanted to kill "2 birds with one stone" and was not willing to be "sloppy seconds." I tried to be nice and not have Guy #5 spend money he doesn't have to, but he was more concerned with his ego. What a waste of 4+ hours on the phone. I'll never get that time back.

6.) I have been talking to Guy #6 for a while (2 months at least,) and he has expressed "interest" in hiring me, but to this date has not SHOWN that he's seriously willing to hire me. I'm probably going to stop wasting my time, because I'm not getting anywhere with him. He was the one who was going to fly with me down to Florida, during which time I could also meet #5.

There are others, but I don't feel like getting further into it. I think I've demonstrated my point.

Perhaps it's a bit more difficult for me to attract the right "employer" because I'm not an escort and I'm not willing to suck dick for money. If I suck your dick, it's because we have some connection and I want to suck. I love treating men well and I make the men I have sex with/date feel like KINGS. But I'm not a pushover, I'm not going to worship you unless you've done something worthy of respect or admiration. Some of you employers on here genuinely believe that you ARE Kings. Having a fat wallet does not a good person make. I'm not impressed by a big bank account, I'm impressed by a guy who has managed to take his money and do something with it, while still maintaining his kindness and compassion. I'm not going to blow someone out of the goodness of my heart, nor will I spend time crafting a web of lies to establish some false "emotional connection" - I am not willing to pretend to love someone. If the houseboy position takes a turn away from a Personal Assistance-type job and moves towards a relationship, that works for me. However, most houseboys are probably not looking for a relationship because one of the most basic facets of a long-lasting relationship is financial stability (something that most houseboys have not achieved yet.)

[azudu2003]

After reading a lot of what both Houseboys and Employers have written, and experiencing a lot on my own, I think there are a lot of "flakey" guys on both sides.

It's unfortunate that both houseboys and employers start a profile on here when they really have no idea what they want or expect. Obviously, there are guys on both sides who have unrealistic expectations - employers who want to treat someone like a slave (or worse), and houseboys who expect to be generously compensated, oftentimes for little or no work.

There are some genuine guys on here, however. Real guys wanting the chance to be a houseboy in some cases just to relocate and start over, fresh - others looking for more of a job with actual pay and other benefits (all of which depends on what is expected of them). There are real guys on here, also looking for a real houseboy, perhaps just to help keep things in order, help with a few chores around the house and maybe some companionship - others who want someone to run their household, cook their meals, clean their house, do the yard work as well as the companionship (sometimes nearly unlimited sex).

It's funny how guys will put all sorts of things in their profile, just to elicit a response from someone. Just be up front, both in your profile and when someone responds. Stop playing games and wasting other peoples' time! Stop expecting to get something for nothing (both houseboys and employers). And most of all, watch out for those trying to scam you - it seems I run into them daily!

[Collegeboy4work]

If you know where these "genuine" employers are, direct them to me because I've yet to find them.

[brandonP]

In addition to flakey people on sites like this, there are also psychopaths. An example is Domcpl4boi who is a man by the name of Ric de R(removing full last name) who is not only narcassistic but has the intent of harming other people, particularly those he views as vulnerable. Looking at his profile he is seeking someone without a lot of ties to others that he can manipulate and control. He has a partner who is seeking the same but Ric is the ring leader. He is a sick individual who should not be on any site what so ever. He has a lengthy past in the UK which includes violent crime against younger gay men as well as stealing rare books from the Mumby reading room at Cambridge University and then selling them via his UPS store to collectors. That is an gold standard example of the type of person you want to stay away from! I don't believe he has ever actually had someone come live with him from this site but his intent is to cause harm to someone else, particularly someone he views as vulnerable.

[yngblkdomtop]

I was just browsing through these and couldn't believe the bullshit coming from your reply, brandonp. Your "facts" are quite shotty and from my guess, they must have turned you down and you're bitter or something.

I used to be a houseboy (as you can see by the name) and even though we can't say our whole names in here, my first name is the same as your screen name (minus the p). I had a great time as a houseboy. The very first "job" I took was for the money, and ended up just liking it. I'm not cute, thin, a twink, or all that stuff, but I NEVER had a problem taking jobs for some of the hottest guys on this site. Some were great, and some were eh..., but it all was a lot of fun for me. I took my last job for a great guy in Midland, Texas that led me to a 3 year relationship (which no one was expecting). Just before that, though, I took on a position in Palm Springs, California for the very guy you're talking about in your response. Wants to cause harm? Lol, the "Ric" guy you're talking about is a submissive bottom. The other guy was the one that wanted a submissive bottom. He had his kinks or whatever, but he wanted a sex slave, not an actual slave. Trust me, I wouldn't have gone for the position otherwise (I'm black). When we met, the first thing he did was apologized for his use of the word "slave" in a screen name. I told him that I didn't see anything wrong with it since I was always more of a dominant top and understood.

I was never forced into doing anything. I didn't even expect to have sex with the other guy but we did one night after a rather sweet evening together. He understood I hadn't been a bottom in quite some time and even took it slow for me.

Back to Ric... this guy couldn't be more gentle without actually having a vagina. Lol I don't mean anything negative about him, I just mean he is perhaps the most kind and gentle soul I've met in this houseboy thing when I was a houseboy. He cooked for me, he always asked how I was feeling, and he helped me clean up even though that was really my job. He cared about his cats a lot, which was my only quirk because I don't like cats.

I had my own bedroom. Both of these guys respected me enough that I NEVER had to lock my door. It was understood that sex happened if I invited it. I think for the other guy, I wasn't really his type even though we did have sex and for Ric, he was actually too submissive for my liking. I mean, I like a submissive guy that is a bit fem, but don't call it your pussy, yah know? Eventually, though, Ric and I actually became friends as we both realized we're both nerds that liked things like The View and Microsoft Flight Simulator (don't laugh). He asked me about growing up in a black/mixed family from Texas (yeah, I know... steers and queers, save it lol) and I asked him about Europe and all that. We cooked together and even discussed recipes. It was quite cool because sometimes I would say words or terms familiar in the U.S., and he would ask and I'd explain it to him. It was interesting seeing him coming to terms with living in the U.S. And I loved his accent

Because the sex thing didn't work out with either of them, we all agreed I should leave. They gave me 30 days to find another houseboy position, but I had a plane ticket to my next position within 24 hours. They both seemed genuinely shocked and a little sad that I was leaving so soon and they even questioned me to make sure the guy was legit and all before letting me get on the plane. They gave me like $40 spending money and a few magazines to pass my time on the plane.

Also to mention... I think the boyfriend's name was Bob or something like that. To be such a bad guy, he sure trusted me quite a bit... with his computers (with all his work info), and even let me drive his new Cadillac Escalade EXT (whatever the big one is called) by myself through town within the first few days of meeting. We even had conversations about cars (he likes GM, I like Subaru) and wine, oddly enough. He always bought me sushi on a daily basis because the first day there, I mentioned I liked it. He thought the idea of it was sick haha, but had a piece one day with me. And nearly threw up lol. HE was the dominant one, but he always called me by my first name or responded with "yes sir" or "no sir" and "please" and "thank you". He never yelled at me, although once I pissed him off about something and all he did was said he was disappointed at me (which made me feel worse than yelling could have done). Yes, one of his screen names had the word "slave" in it, but trust me when I say this; this guy was TERRIBLE at how he worded things, but ALWAYS ALWAYS meant well by it. All he wanted was a submissive bottom. We even discussed this and I did mention to him that I thought he should word his profile(s) better.

Ric and I kept in touch. I know that they broke up, unfortunately, which sucked because I thought they were cool together. Quite different, the two. Nice and caring. I have no idea what happened to Bob (would love to hear from you again if you're reading this!!!) but Ric and I still chat. I may even be heading to California to meet up with him soon. He really was just a good friend. They both were.

And the UPS store was owned by Bob, not Ric. He has nothing to do with that store as Bob was quite picky about that.

Brandonp, get your facts right before trying to go after someone. You're talking about two guys that would have offered a great position for anyone. It wasn't a paid position, but I know I never went without. Now that they've broken up, I don't see any one of them on here hardly at all if ever, but don't make other guys in need miss a good opportunity just because of your bad experience or what ever happened.

To anyone reading this; don't let anyone tell you about someone else. That's like dating a guy with tips from the dumped ex. Be smart. Don't send money (for any reason), don't send personal info, and let someone know where you are. I never agreed to meet someone unless I could confirm that a round trip ticket was purchased. I've never had to use the second part of a ticket, but it was my "just in case" to get home, or have a way back home just in case. Just don't be an idiot. I've found great houseboy situations and now in less than 30 days of paying for this site as an employer, I've found the absolute perfect houseboy. It's only difficult to have a good time on this site if you make it.